tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6879552692521649812.post4506991086205105605..comments2024-01-04T15:56:19.156-05:00Comments on Commandments of Men: They Still Look At The Cover To Read The BookLewishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05596138376570543467noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6879552692521649812.post-19053200977143333802015-06-02T00:41:15.668-04:002015-06-02T00:41:15.668-04:00Oh, it gets worse.
The Duggars are followers of B...Oh, it gets worse.<br /><br />The Duggars are followers of Bill Gothard. Gothard is a known sexual predator. Gothard wrote the counseling materials that are to be used in cases of molestation. If you really want to know more, scans of his counseling instructions are posted here:<br /><br />http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2015/05/what-did-josh-duggars-counseling-look-like.html<br /><br />If you would rather not throw up, here's the takeaway: Victim-blaming and sweeping under the rug. Gee. Color me surprised.<br /><br />Jenny IslanderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6879552692521649812.post-8498119434962993412015-06-01T12:13:09.446-04:002015-06-01T12:13:09.446-04:00Jenny, thanks for the clarification. How absolute...Jenny, thanks for the clarification. How absolutely tragic for the Duggar girls. I can say from my own experience of being molested by my older brother, repeatedly, when I was only 12 and 13 years old that it is an experience that words cannot adequately describe. I was fortunate that the abuse didn't go further, but it still left a permanent mark on me, and I can hardly stand to be around my brother to this day and I'm now 54 years old. Also, I think it's entirely possible that none of the Duggar girls got *proper* counseling from a trained therapist. The story I read says that Josh was sent off to do hard work (did he get any proper counseling?) but from what I know of the Quiverfull movement, therapy and counseling by "outsiders" is shunned, with any "counseling" being done by church elders (who are unlikely to be a licensed therapist).<br /><br />It's heartbreaking. And then these girls are expected to be ready, willing and enthusiastic sex partners on their wedding night. So sad.Lisa Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05441612636270731156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6879552692521649812.post-20896705659801572052015-05-31T22:37:06.772-04:002015-05-31T22:37:06.772-04:00The reason this story blew up all over the Web is ...The reason this story blew up all over the Web is that there <i>is</i> a police report. The unredacted copy has been destroyed. The redacted copy was requested by In Touch Weekly (a tabloid, but even tabloids occasionally publish real news) under the Freedom of Information Act and posted online. Unfortunately, the redactor didn't do a thorough job. While the names were blacked out, the report specifies that four of the five victims lived with their parents, James Robert and Michelle Duggar, at the time of the incidents.<br /><br />Five daughters lived at home when these crimes were committed. I think it is cruel and skeevy to speculate on exactly which ones were targeted by their molester brother, but it's very clear from the report that four of the victims were Duggars.<br /><br />Jenny IslanderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6879552692521649812.post-11492483855960263782015-05-31T14:19:36.579-04:002015-05-31T14:19:36.579-04:00Actually, those of you familiar with this bizarre ...Actually, those of you familiar with this bizarre way of life, is it possible the minor girls who were the victims are Josh's sisters?? With the strict separation of the sexes and constant chaperoning present in Quiverfull homes, how would Jish have even been in the home of another family with young girls overnight??? Isn't that pretty much impossible? Maybe that's why no police reports were ever filed -- because Jim Bob and Michelle didn't file them. No formal complaints from the victims, no police reports.Lisa Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05441612636270731156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6879552692521649812.post-81862201051077557522015-05-30T23:50:46.038-04:002015-05-30T23:50:46.038-04:00Well, we've been a Christian Homeschool family...Well, we've been a Christian Homeschool family for years. We were disgusted and horrified to hear the news of this. My heart completely goes out to those girls. I hope and pray the show never goes back on. I've never seen it but have seen enough clips to have no interest. I've got four sons here and just the thought that people think that this could be a typical thing that a 14 yr. old could do is crazy and sick. No it's not! Now I've read tonight that the parents are going to share their heart about all of this. I am honestly not sure what to think about that. It might actually be a good thing for parents to listen to so they don't make the same stupid mistakes but I'm just not sure. It could be pretty sickening too! First thing one of my grown sons said when he heard the news of this was,"Why would they put their family out there like this when they knew this was a problem?"<br /><br />They should have gotten them all the help they needed.Kerinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6879552692521649812.post-10592516895641877762015-05-30T21:32:25.779-04:002015-05-30T21:32:25.779-04:00Well said Jenny.Well said Jenny.Lisa Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05441612636270731156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6879552692521649812.post-35788840365607007872015-05-30T21:31:43.749-04:002015-05-30T21:31:43.749-04:00Having been fondled in my sleep multiple times dec...Having been fondled in my sleep multiple times decades ago by my older brother (who was also 14 at the time), I wonder what the odds are that creep boy Josh also sexually molested his younger sisters. Pretty high I'll bet. But we will never know because that bat shit crazy family would have covered it up tight as a drum. It's all about protecting the family's lily white image and "Christian forgiveness."Lisa Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05441612636270731156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6879552692521649812.post-48468654353938618012015-05-30T13:12:36.883-04:002015-05-30T13:12:36.883-04:00I knew all I needed to know about the Duggars'...I knew all I needed to know about the Duggars' wholesome lifestyle when I found out that their parenting manual is <i>To Train Up a Child.</i> Those children have been beaten since infancy. Beaten for crawling in the wrong direction, beaten for being curious, beaten for not smiling on command, beaten for not jumping to like a freshly minted graduate of boot camp. I do not care what euphemism for beating children their parents use to disguise what they did. The Pearls advocate beating babies and children for any and every tiny deviation from robotic and endlessly cheerful compliance with their parents' every little whim. Even a child's choice of which toy to play with is liable to corporal punishment. Michael Pearl gleefully describes setting up a situation that is bound to tempt a curious, impulsive toddler to do something naughty, then hiding nearby in order to leap out and beat him!<br /><br />And that is only one facet of the ball of screwed-upness that is the Duggar children's upbringing. When I found out that Josh Duggar is a child molester, I wasn't surprised. Sickened, but not surprised.<br /><br />Jenny IslanderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6879552692521649812.post-10974517831713390992015-05-30T11:23:38.415-04:002015-05-30T11:23:38.415-04:00Dan beat me to it. Ditto what he said. Yours is ...Dan beat me to it. Ditto what he said. Yours is a voice of reason -- hope you don't wait so long to write another post.Lisa Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05441612636270731156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6879552692521649812.post-55966059436474384042015-05-29T18:42:28.833-04:002015-05-29T18:42:28.833-04:00Love you. Thank you.Love you. Thank you.Incongruous Circumspectionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16232186225573312896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6879552692521649812.post-88955278165480664402015-05-29T14:14:23.566-04:002015-05-29T14:14:23.566-04:00Welcome back - don't be a stranger. You are o...Welcome back - don't be a stranger. You are one of the smartest voices we have.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17818298589056905987noreply@blogger.com